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Post by Baz on Jul 9, 2017 10:09:00 GMT
i try not to fill mine up it rots things and comes out if ya joints aren't tight on bends !!' my fuel gauge does the quarter full is nearly empty so I just read it as that. A fuel gauge as a worry gauge is just another worry . We could all do same for temp gauge, their should be no need for accuracy , unless of course your on a motor way n you suddenly look n think oh shit!!
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Post by Zed on Jul 9, 2017 11:05:12 GMT
i try not to fill mine up it rots things and comes out if ya joints aren't tight on bends !!' my fuel gauge does the quarter full is nearly empty so I just read it as that. A fuel gauge as a worry gauge is just another worry . We could all do same for temp gauge, their should be no need for accuracy , unless of course your on a motor way n you suddenly look n think oh shit!! Mine spills fuel round corners too. I generally fill up when I know I'm going to use a few gallons straight away. I could do with a new seal on the filler cap. Or just sell the fecka before it falls apart.
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Post by chad on Jul 9, 2017 11:18:44 GMT
"Or just sell the fecka before it falls apart. "
I thought that you restored it about a year ago?
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Post by popegregoryxi on Jul 9, 2017 11:42:11 GMT
Ah, I see. Mine has read lower and lower over the years... from an empty tank it takes 4 gallons before the gauge starts to move... might have a look at it one day. I've never actually run out, but have got 53L in once or twice so nearly have. I'll fill up later so maybe that'll give me some idea. My westy used to have a couple of gallons left when it read below empty, I think I may be rejoining that club now it's "fixed". I'm not sure which is most annoying! IIRC there's an extension wire between the loom and the sender, if I could get at the join I could replace the loom bit but I think it's behind the firewall? I'm sure I've seen some where the connection is just outside the firewall, they may have been tampered with though... if you have an access slot though I'm sure you could fiddle a new cable through and join it near the wheel arch. Probably.
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Post by Zed on Jul 9, 2017 11:52:12 GMT
"Or just sell the fecka before it falls apart. " I thought that you restored it about a year ago? Coming up to two years now but it lives outside, gets used in the salty winter and is used as a shed all year round. I used to reckon 6 years between restorations for one that gets used and lives outside.
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Post by Zed on Jul 9, 2017 11:57:54 GMT
I've never actually run out, but have got 53L in once or twice so nearly have. I'll fill up later so maybe that'll give me some idea. My westy used to have a couple of gallons left when it read below empty, I think I may be rejoining that club now it's "fixed". I'm not sure which is most annoying! IIRC there's an extension wire between the loom and the sender, if I could get at the join I could replace the loom bit but I think it's behind the firewall? I'm sure I've seen some where the connection is just outside the firewall, they may have been tampered with though... if you have an access slot though I'm sure you could fiddle a new cable through and join it near the wheel arch. Probably. I think maybe I could get a hand to it through the paint tin lid hole. The wire at the dash end isn't exactly flexible any more so the underneath bit is probably even worse. It reads 65ohms after 90 miles, 70(ish) should be empty. It's going to be miles out!
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Post by Zed on Jul 9, 2017 13:18:04 GMT
I believe the tank holds 55l. Fill up took 25l to get from half way between reserve and 1/4 to this... So full is pretty damn good but reserve looks like being 1/2 a tank!
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Post by popegregoryxi on Jul 9, 2017 13:30:12 GMT
Hmmm, maybe it's the sender at fault then.. are you able to get it out through the access hole?
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Post by Zed on Jul 9, 2017 14:33:05 GMT
Hmmm, maybe it's the sender at fault then.. are you able to get it out through the access hole? Not without too much pain and misery to consider it yet. Now I know what I know I'll drive 200 miles and see where that gets me. I managed 243 miles on 53 litres = 21mpg. Since then just 95 miles on 26.5l = 16mpg. Oops, not so good around town then! Maybe I'll have to fill up after 180 miles.
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Post by womball on Jul 9, 2017 14:42:29 GMT
mine keeps ticking the needle flickers whats that mean any answer greatfull received
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Post by Zed on Jul 9, 2017 14:49:35 GMT
mine keeps ticking the needle flickers whats that mean any answer greatfull received Could be a bad earth on the instrument cluster, particularly if it waves in time with the indicators. There's no earth for the gauge, but as I found out yesterday the voltage stabiliser does need the dash earth.
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Post by womball on Jul 9, 2017 15:10:56 GMT
mine keeps ticking the needle flickers whats that mean any answer greatfull received Could be a bad earth on the instrument cluster, particularly if it waves in time with the indicators. There's no earth for the gauge, but as I found out yesterday the voltage stabiliser does need the dash earth. you say that it could be earth but i made up a new earth lead to the clocks so its not that. but also my idecater relay ticks all the time doesnt speed up with the engine and the fuel gauge doesnt tick the same speed as the relay so confused cheers zed
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Post by Zed on Jul 9, 2017 15:15:28 GMT
Alternator output then?
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Post by VW Toast on Jul 9, 2017 15:53:50 GMT
If it's a zener diode V stabilisation gauge, might be of use putting up a pic of the actual zener as I can get various types at work. 5.5 V ? I hear you say, also don't forget they are never deadly accurate as they is made in batches and each batch will vary in voltage anyway. Stick up a pic and if I can find any in that dungeon of a stores i'll have a go.
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Post by Zed on Jul 9, 2017 16:29:11 GMT
If it's a zener diode V stabilisation gauge, might be of use putting up a pic of the actual zener as I can get various types at work. 5.5 V ? I hear you say, also don't forget they are never deadly accurate as they is made in batches and each batch will vary in voltage anyway. Stick up a pic and if I can find any in that dungeon of a stores i'll have a go. You must have missed a post - it just needed it's case earthing and is now doing it's thing correctly. The new problem is the gauge reads full when full, but less than 1/4 when there's really more than 1/2 a tank left. I'm just about to go measure the resistance through wire and sender which is supposed to be 10 ohms with a full tank. Not sure exactly what that will tell me.
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