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Post by Zed on Jan 14, 2019 13:58:03 GMT
My van is, and has always been since I've had it, like steering a boat in a gale. Setting the geometry hasn't helped, I still have guages, I've done it lots of times to no avail. But I do have to rather over adjust the camber nut to set camber on the left and it wants to pull to the left...the more weight I load it with, the worse it is. Passengers have commented that it leans alarmingly (to them  ) when I turn right. I think I might have a few broken leaves which would account for the leaning...or a bent trailing arm - maybe someone slid into a kerb? I know I've posted about this before but I've become slightly spanner and grease averse lately and welcome any suggestions to narrowing it down that don't involve what I'd recommend myself if someone asked - take it to pieces, if no broken spring replace the trailing arms. So easy to type yet a day covered in shit in a crap car park is the unwanted reality. Really, the question - is there a way to diagnose a bent arm without a jig as shown in Bentley? |
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Post by popegregoryxi on Jan 16, 2019 22:03:47 GMT
To be honest, I would say no.  Unless its a mile out, I cant imagine you would see it, and I cant picture a way of accurately measuring it. assume you have changed shocks side for side to see if the leaning changes? I would have thought that a snapped leaf would give it a lean when its just sitting. Could you get a glamorous assistant to stand on the front bumper, one side ata time, and measure the drop at the arches? I think you know you are going to end up taking it apart in the car park.. |
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Post by Zed on Jan 17, 2019 9:30:34 GMT
To be honest, I would say no. Unless its a mile out, I cant imagine you would see it, and I cant picture a way of accurately measuring it. assume you have changed shocks side for side to see if the leaning changes? I would have thought that a snapped leaf would give it a lean when its just sitting. Could you get a glamorous assistant to stand on the front bumper, one side ata time, and measure the drop at the arches? I think you know you are going to end up taking it apart in the car park.. It's been suggested that extreme camber nut setting buggers the caster. Can't imagine it's shocks, it passed MOT yesterday. |
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Post by popegregoryxi on Jan 17, 2019 10:36:50 GMT
To be honest, I would say no. Unless its a mile out, I cant imagine you would see it, and I cant picture a way of accurately measuring it. assume you have changed shocks side for side to see if the leaning changes? I would have thought that a snapped leaf would give it a lean when its just sitting. Could you get a glamorous assistant to stand on the front bumper, one side ata time, and measure the drop at the arches? I think you know you are going to end up taking it apart in the car park.. It's been suggested that extreme camber nut setting buggers the caster. Can't imagine it's shocks, it passed MOT yesterday. Ah yes, the nature of the concentric nut would move the castor wouldn't it.. hmm. I reckon you will have to try a pair of arms on that side to see if it makes a difference to the camber then. Which is more hassle than you want to get involved with I'm sure.. I do have a spare set of arms you are welcome to try if you ever feel like getting greased up. |
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Post by Zed on Jan 17, 2019 10:48:20 GMT
It's been suggested that extreme camber nut setting buggers the caster. Can't imagine it's shocks, it passed MOT yesterday. Ah yes, the nature of the concentric nut would move the castor wouldn't it.. hmm. I reckon you will have to try a pair of arms on that side to see if it makes a difference to the camber then. Which is more hassle than you want to get involved with I'm sure.. I do have a spare set of arms you are welcome to try if you ever feel like getting greased up. Wombat Jezza is looking me out a set but if his are buggered that would great thanks.  What is quite annoying is that at one point my van was going to be for someone else as their's was too buggered to be worth fixing. I asked if he wanted his beam putting on "my" van. He did so I swapped them. If I hadn't done that I probably wouldn't have a problem! |
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Post by popegregoryxi on Jan 17, 2019 10:55:31 GMT
Ah yes, the nature of the concentric nut would move the castor wouldn't it.. hmm. I reckon you will have to try a pair of arms on that side to see if it makes a difference to the camber then. Which is more hassle than you want to get involved with I'm sure.. I do have a spare set of arms you are welcome to try if you ever feel like getting greased up. Wombat Jezza is looking me out a set but if his are buggered that would great thanks. What is quite annoying is that at one point my van was going to be for someone else as their's was too buggered to be worth fixing. I asked if he wanted his beam putting on "my" van. He did so I swapped them. If I hadn't done that I probably wouldn't have a problem! When will we learn... never ever try and help people out! 😂 |
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Post by Zed on Jan 18, 2019 11:20:36 GMT
I rang the garage. He says it was 2020kg. Damn that's heavy!
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Post by popegregoryxi on Jan 18, 2019 20:50:39 GMT
My T4 is only 480kg more than that! 😱
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Post by volkswombat on Jan 20, 2019 22:24:43 GMT
Still haven't had chance to hunt for the arms, but leaves are still in beam 👍
I've heard from a couple of people before that a suspension/steering issue was actually caused by something broken on the rear suspension.
One was my dad's van that something had broken up the back and it made the steering go so bad that it repeatedly blew the tyre on one side.
Just a thought!
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Post by Zed on Jan 21, 2019 9:27:48 GMT
Cheers, I don't think it's the rear though, I went through that with new donuts and the tracking set up. 👍
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Post by Zed on Jun 1, 2019 10:42:43 GMT
My lovely van is going straight! What a difference! I replaced All 4 suspension arms along with the ball joints that were fitted to the replacements as they seemed ok. Both spindles just in case. All the torsion springs. Two were broken, both on the same side, the side it steered towards. But I still had to set one camber nut to max positive which isn't right. Maybe the actual beam is skewed. It's a bit rusty and previously patched so I'll keep a look out for a replacement. It's great to go straight and it's improved the blowing about thing too. |
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Post by pkrboo on Jun 3, 2019 14:08:41 GMT
Simon Daisy has a beam for sale i think
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Post by Zed on Jun 3, 2019 15:28:10 GMT
Simon Daisy has a beam for sale i think Ta. I'll call him and see what's what. |
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Post by pkrboo on Jun 3, 2019 15:51:13 GMT
Ray will have one for sale soon too, not sure on its condition though
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Post by Zed on Jun 3, 2019 17:53:57 GMT
Ray will have one for sale soon too, not sure on its condition though Simon's is welded and lowered with adjusters... I expect for many people fitting funky beams of whatever type poor condition of existing is part of the equation. No rush, it goes straight now which is a joyous thing and I don't actually want to perform the swap - I just feel that I should ... at some point. |
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) when I turn right.
Unless its a mile out, I cant imagine you would see it, and I cant picture a way of accurately measuring it.
